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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t just free your data, Swivel it</title>
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		<title>By: Andrea Aime</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/03/23/dont-just-free-your-data-swivel-it/comment-page-1/#comment-31528</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Aime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, seen the &quot;native&quot; bit at the end of the blog. Did not thought much about it thought, I&#039;m pretty sure Mike did not intend to imply more than what the blog itself present, a set of steps that you can follow to turn data loaded in GeoServer into a chart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, seen the &#8220;native&#8221; bit at the end of the blog. Did not thought much about it thought, I&#8217;m pretty sure Mike did not intend to imply more than what the blog itself present, a set of steps that you can follow to turn data loaded in GeoServer into a chart.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Aime</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/03/23/dont-just-free-your-data-swivel-it/comment-page-1/#comment-31527</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Aime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.. Sean, where in the blog it was said that there is &quot;native&quot; interaction or that there is anything specific relationship between Swivel and WFS?
The blog merely points that that now you can make charts by combining the GeoServer CSV output format and this online charting service. Something that, before, would have required some script.
A simple one for sure, but not everybody is a server side developer, not everybody is competent enough to write the admittedly simple python script required.
Plus, say you have ArcSDE as your data source. Or Oracle. Or whatever else is supported natively by GeoServer and that you already configured in order to do some WMS and WFS serving.
No matter what the source is, the way to get GeoServer export WFS is the same, and you get simple CQL filtering in the package for free.
So, no native integration, but a handy way to generate web charts for whoever has already its data configured in GeoServer.
Imho it&#039;s worth pointing out, even if it&#039;s not automagic, nor specific to GeoServer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.. Sean, where in the blog it was said that there is &#8220;native&#8221; interaction or that there is anything specific relationship between Swivel and WFS?<br />
The blog merely points that that now you can make charts by combining the GeoServer CSV output format and this online charting service. Something that, before, would have required some script.<br />
A simple one for sure, but not everybody is a server side developer, not everybody is competent enough to write the admittedly simple python script required.<br />
Plus, say you have ArcSDE as your data source. Or Oracle. Or whatever else is supported natively by GeoServer and that you already configured in order to do some WMS and WFS serving.<br />
No matter what the source is, the way to get GeoServer export WFS is the same, and you get simple CQL filtering in the package for free.<br />
So, no native integration, but a handy way to generate web charts for whoever has already its data configured in GeoServer.<br />
Imho it&#8217;s worth pointing out, even if it&#8217;s not automagic, nor specific to GeoServer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Gillies</title>
		<link>http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/03/23/dont-just-free-your-data-swivel-it/comment-page-1/#comment-31296</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a party pooper, but this has nothing to do with WFS, the protocol. Swivel can&#039;t discover the feature types within a GeoServer instance, so you can&#039;t really call this &quot;native&quot; interaction or serendipitous reuse. Any script that can dump a table to CSV -- or Excel, even -- has the same level of interoperability with Swivel, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a party pooper, but this has nothing to do with WFS, the protocol. Swivel can&#8217;t discover the feature types within a GeoServer instance, so you can&#8217;t really call this &#8220;native&#8221; interaction or serendipitous reuse. Any script that can dump a table to CSV &#8212; or Excel, even &#8212; has the same level of interoperability with Swivel, yes?</p>
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